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to say who they are just tell us where to go and we have a tip line, 575-4444. and that is 24/7, if someone knows the where abouts of a gun and don't want anything to do it and want us to go and scoop it up so something does not happen. call and let us know, we don't need an arrest we just want the gun. >> and that is for everybody. >> everybody that wants to call >> on that note, if anybody wants to turn in the guns they are welcome to turn in the guns at any police station will take their guns, no questions asked. we will render them safe and if anybody finds a weapon call the police and we will be out there to pick the weapon up. >> thank you, deputy, chief, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we appreciate. dejesus. >> i had a question on the last thing that you talked about, i understand the congressional hearings, one of the criticisms was that the people who no longer were able to have guns, will have their guns and i understand that california we have a cross-reference checking, so if there is an order of domestic violence or something, put in place, then it is match
. >> commissioner loftus. >> here. >> you have a quorum and also with us is the chief of police and [inaudible] >> welcome to the wednesday january 23, 2013 police commission meeting. we have a really packed agenda for tonight but for the second week in a row we're starting off with a good note with presentations to people for good work that they did so i would like to start with line item one. >> line item one is presentations of smplt it's an action. mr. awinn swann, mr. mario jimenez, mr. darryl mickens. >> good evening captain. >> good evening commissioner. good evening commissioners, director, chief and public. i am delighted and honored to here this evening and i would like to tell you the circumstances which brought me here this evening. on 11:13 p.m. on friday evening december 7,2012 two uniformed parked anti-crime officers were on patrol in a marked police car. at that time they saw a man lying in the middle of the street. as they approached the man to check on his well being he suddenly level to his feet and punched the close est officer in the face several times knocking her to
such an incredible advocate of making -- solving auberry's murder, something very personal i think to many of us. and it's another point of hearing that inspector jones is retiring is just a reminder of how much we're losing in this department, so much expertise. so, i know that this is something i'm sure the department is already planning to do. but when that case is transitioned, certainly, i don't know when inspector jones is retiring. i'm sure it's in june, but -- and again, i'm saying this only to say it because i know you guys would already do t. certainly keeping ms. brown involved and keeping us aware of what is going on with that investigation because i think she's a very powerful advocate for that case. so helpful. >> again, preaching -- >> preaching to the choir, chief, i know. >> there is no statute of limitations on homicides. they will never be closed. they will always be transitioned to the next investigator. we had talked before. we are aware of who the number one suspect is and that's just coming up with what we would need to put a case before a jury is the problem. >> maybe we'
think about -- you know, the calendar, that's going to put that first 10 days, that puts us usually right around that point, first 10 days comes into play around there. entering to note because we're talking about the go or some of the background for the gos, one of the things that 81 1 section 2 part 4, they say the officers shall not be returned to regular duty until the commission has met in closed session with the chief of police. i just want to point out that this has been difficult in some cases for us to get that presented to the commission, you know, in the first meeting after the rtd sometimes the commission is dark or there is a public session where -- maybe even there is not a quorum. so, i just wanted to mention that particular aspect. so, again, going back to the notifications, homicide is notified. so, we're going to talk about the process in san francisco the jurisdiction for investigating the criminal side of an officer involved shooting falls to the local law enforcement jurisdiction. in san francisco that's obviously our department and it's assigned to our homicide
the officer used leave of force to evaluate that use of force against the department policies. we utilize interviews, forensic evidence and other data collected in the course of the criminal investigation. so, we have some of the same dependencies that homicide has, we're piggybacking. >> quick question for you. the next part of the slide say compelled interviewed conducted with involved members. can you explain to the public the difference between when there's -- a we talked about, the criminal investigation and administrative investigation. can you explain to the public that, for example, the officers like any other individual has a fifth amendment privilege and do not need to speak to the prosecutors. however, by law, part of the administrative, they have to talk to pursuant to general orders our investigators, is that correct? >> that's correct. you jumped the gun. you put it in better terms than i would have, commissioner. but yes, we conduct a separate interview for the involved officer. that interview is a compelled interview. the officer is given [speaker not understood], read the
commend him for making use of this public forum in the public comments. there are avenues to registered complaints with the san francisco police department through the department of occ. and mr. harte is well aware of this, but he chose to make negative comments against these officers without knowing their full history within the department. the poa questions his motives for this and his credibility, seeing that he is a self-appointed director of some watchdog organization that has one member, himself. so, we challenge him to produce any evidence that inspector miranda did, in fact, misrepresent himself or the department in front of the city attorney's office. i doubt if he could come forward with that. >> thank you. next speaker. hearing none -- come forward, ma'am. >>> good evening, commissioners. good evening, chief. my name is mary kay coner, and i have worked in san francisco with people who have both psychiatric, neurological, and emotional disabilities and other kinds of disabilities. a ma mort of them who are homeless. in 1996 myself and a group of other people including represe
. >> one more question. similar to the question officer loft us asked about, whether they're out of policy finding have been for the d.a., do you know just in recent history have they ever charged for an ois -- * >> charge an officer? >> um-hm. >> not -- just having reviewed like the last 10 years recently, certainly not in the last 10 years. i'm not offhand aware of a case where there's been a criminal charge. not in my memory. >> not mine either. okay. and then with the firearm discharge review board, you included a list of the composition of that board. and i wanted to ask if there's any changes in that composition. i remember a couple months ago we did talk with the chief, some of us, about including someone from training and potentially from tactics. i wondered if that is in here. >> this reflects the current structure. so, there haven't been any changes. this varies a little bit from the general order because it reflects the change in the department command structure so the general order is a little kind of off, it's a little behind the times a little bit in that regard specifically.
we had the ois report. you mentioned the d.a.'s office. it's really important that -- for us that the d.a. does a thorough review of the investigation because that's the objective third-party eye. you know, they do -- they initiate an investigation at the time they're notified of the shooting. they do some joint work with our homicide unit. they are at the scene. they participate in the interview that the officers of the witnesses, of the suspect. and then they draw their own preliminary conclusion. they conduct their own investigation. they then review what the homicide investigator presented, their burden of proof, as you know, beyond a reasonable doubt. and the d.a. would decide any charging in the matter of any involved party. and as i mentioned, it provides that objective independent analysis of the incident in the criminal investigation. so, we feel that's important. once they finish, their information as i mentioned is their conclusionses are forwarded to the administrative investigator. the administrative investigator at the same time as the on-site investigation, two
, especially now that we initiated these efficiency plans that get us more people, but creating units is nothing something that is a luxury that i have right now. >> we actually had officers out of vrt that enjoyed that and took it upon themselves to make sure that they got that list down and paired it down, i think that we went through that list in about, seven or eight or nine months. >> but, again, it manifest itself and so we will get a fresh list and start it up again. >> that was one of criticisms that we have, not we but we have a law and some law enforcement are not talking the responsibility or the opportunity. >> commissioner that was a complete go to the fridge and get the box and we went right through the list. marshall, a couple of things. >> commissioner kingsley, and do the prevention piece, i have never looked at the department as a that it is not their forte, i don't think that it should be, they put into place because and because they are doing their best. i think that it is the community responsibility for do the prevention piece and i think that it is the family's
the administrative investigation. it can't go to the criminal investigation. it can't be used -- their statement to the administrative investigator to generalize, can't be -- [speaker not understood] you understand, but can't be used to, you know, against the officer in a criminal investigation related to that specific incident except as a matter of impeachment or allowed by a judge. >> is that why information flows one way per that flow chart you showed us? >> that's also true of any disciplinary investigation where there could be a criminal component. it flows one way. there are state laws regarding, you know, the peace officer, peace officer rights and the fact that you have labor file, thing like that. it can flow one direction, it can't flow the other. so, that's not unique to the ois investigation. okay. okay. so, any questions so far? sorry. the administrative investigation again is determining whether the use of lethal force was in accordance with the department of policy. our burden of proof in administering the investigation is the preponderance of the evidence. inve
findings to come to a consensus regarding whether the use of lethal force was in policy, not in policy, or whether further investigation is required. and then the chair, which is again will look at the members of it, the d.c. admin will report the findings to the chief. the board is composed of the deputy chief administration who chairses it, the dc of operations, d.c. of special operations, excuse me, and the d.c. of the airport. and advisory members would be the police -- a police commissioner, the director of occ, the commanding officer of risk management, and the sfpd range master. the findings, as i mentioned before, the chief who reviews them. and if he concurses with the finding, the chief will work the recommendation of the fdrb to the police commission. if the chief does not concur, he would forward his own findings to the police commission. the way that is presented to the police commission is in writing. you've seen the fdrb letters. it's letter format, but it's in writing. it summarizes all the different components of the administrative -- administrative investigation, the
, that will give us as much notice and time. in previous years the commission has gotten a budget [speaker not understood]. >> it's never been a two-year budget before. so, you've not -- the two-year budget in great detail last year, this is the mid point of a two-year budget. so, it's already been cast. and we had to come up with the $1.5 million in revenue -- >> just sort of recognizing the revenue. >> expenditure adjustments revenue, allowances to come in with what we had to give the mayor back. but everything else is, again, with a budget that's basically 90% personnel and $10 million in furniture for a new building, the budget pretty much is what it is in its second year. >> should we be voting on it? i know in previous years we voted in terms of recommending -- you've already down it so we're not going to do it for this coming year, okay. last year i don't think we even approved it. we were concerned about not getting enough time. yeah. >> [speaker not understood]. >> if you remember last year, the mayor's office was still working with the votes on the board of supervisors to decide,
down. however, what is slowing us down particularly in sustained cases that we have an inadequate legal staffing because when you consider that there are 16 or 15 investigators producing cases and they're funneling to 2-1/2 lawyers who are reviewing them, then that is where our cases slow down and the time it take to complete sustained cases has not really reduced in the last -- in the last several years. additionally, we have inadequate information system technology staffing. we have all 34.75 positions, only one information systems technology business analyst. that's [speaker not understood]. you've met him at presentations of the annual report, and he is responsible for an incredible number of things. from the hardware, that is, when we replace our pcs or our laptopses, he is the one who installs them. and it is not a simple installation because we have databases that he has to install and customize on computers. in addition to that, he's responsible for creating databases, amending them, tweaking them for interfacing with our consultants such as the project that we have for online c
. and continues to be a vital, out reach tool for us. and we have posted on the website, commonly asked questions and answers about the occs and we have a calendar of public out reach activity and our annual and quarterly reports to the police commission, our community out reach plan, informational prosures in english, and other languages. and our medation brochure in the top five targeted languages. the police commission hearing notice and 40 locations through san francisco where occ complaint forms can be obtained. for several years budgetary constraints have gotten in the way of on-line complaint filing but i am happy to report that is well under way. on-line complaint filing the development thereof. and we anticipate that we will be able to go live by the second quarter of this year. by june 30th. >> finally to the 2013, out reach goals and we will provide the services, and here in community members policy concerns and enhancing community pat ner ships. to more effectively reach larger audiences and continue to fulfill the out reach commission by relying on the staff presentations and distrib
. and interpole, again. and the u.s. department of defense. and another interpole. request. and us secret service request and in new york state university police, request. there were no violations of the guidelines discovered during the audit. there was one record of a request for investigation, relative to the hate crime unit involving a request for the f.b.i. to review and consider further investigation into a criminal assault of a gay man. in the area of training, lieutenant gracy provided documentation that the members of the special investigation division unit who participated in the approved dgo 8.10 investigation had received updated training. and there was documentation that said (inaudible) initiated or pending and we have discussed the recommendations with lieutenant gracy who agrees with them and seeking approval to institute these changes, and that concludes this report. questions? >> i have a quick one. the recommendations they found, like very good ideas to me is i am wondering now the status that the chief has the status of the recommendations from the occ. >> i have not seen the f
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